Sesshomaru

I have admitted time and time again that I made a mistake. I accepted full responsibility for that. I have stated time and time again that she is a good seller and I have recommended her. I admit that I am young and I wanted to learn each and every facet of this hobby. I was over zealous, but you all have made your point. I am asking you, please let this go. I am young, I made a mistake I have learned from it. I admit that I tried to get something I could not afford. Can you really blame me? I tried to get the money and I was honest about my situation. I even went so far as to try to give plasma to get the money but was rejected on the basis that I have hypothyroidism. I did not tell her this because she would have seen it as an excuse. Now you all know just as you know every single thing I said. I do think it interesting though that I have not broadcasted her ID and that she did not think to mention I had apologized, which I did a few times. I felt horrible afterwards. I was angry and emotional. I admit it. Now all of my private issues have been made public. Is this really fair when I just recommended her? Please let this go. I am guilty of anger and of overzealousness but not of scamming anyone.

I hope that you all could forgive me for the mistake that I have made.

Some of the accusations were false, I will state that I have never bought a cel over 500, except for the one I bought yesterday, especially not a year ago. The only cel I bought a year ago was about 100 dollars. You can check my ebay account to verify that if you wish to. I have nothing to hide.
Edited Sep 09 at 9:56 PM
sophcollegegirl
Sep 09 at 9:48 PM
Thank you. You have no idea how much it means to me to see someone who stood up for me. I have only made a few posts to this site and I'm already getting flames. I haven't even put up my gallery yet. I'm not sure what to do. I never posted any messages that she sent me. I just want this to stop. Any advice for a newbie?
sophcollegegirl
Sep 09 at 9:58 PM
"She said that she wanted to get back what she had spent on them. That is understandable but how can one expect to make the same amount that they put into a cel if they then separate it"

1) A spiraling market. A cel one or two frames off of my Sesshomaru cel (and not a better cel) sold for 4 or 5 times what I paid for mine (and then sold for two or three times what I paid for mine shortly thereafter)a bit after I had bought mine

http://tag.rubberslug.com/gallery/inv_info.asp?ItemID=92893

essentially
because the market for Sesshomaru cels was out of control. (And still is, I think.)
It's not unwarranted in some situations to expect to fairly quickly turn around and sell a cel for what you paid for it while retaining the drawings.
(On the other hand, many buyers who buy when the market is out of control still want to "get what they paid for" when the market has crashed, and have ridiculous prices on their material. See, for example, brick and mortar animation art galleries and clueless "investors" in animation art.)

2) Purchase in one place and resale in another place. Anyone who considers themselves a dealer will by their nature be trying to sell items for more than they bought them for. This is true for dealers of corn, cars or cels. So, here we may have a seller purchasing from a source unavailable or too costly in terms of travel or informational barriers or quantity requirements to a certain group of buyers. The seller uses its access to buy materials and in turn provides access to the buyers at a cost greater (or so they hope) than their cost of obtaining the materials in the first place and at a rate great enough to justify their doing so instead of, say, waiting tables, practicing medicine, or whatever it is they might otherwise do. Some dealers may want their profit to be directly in animation art (there would be a tax benefit instead of converting the art entirely into cash, being taxed on that amount, and then spending the taxed money on other art); therefore, selling a cel at the cost of a cel and a sketch creates a profit equal to one sketch. Considering the differences in prices between cels and sketches, this is a fairly modest profit.

3) Parting out. The constituent parts of an item can often be sold for more than the parts as a whole. A laptop with no power cord or batery can be bought fairly cheaply. But someone who just needs its harddrive will be better off just buying the harddrive instead of the whole thing, and someone who just needs the RAM will be better off just getting the RAM, and someone who needs the keyboard will be better off just getting the keyboard, etc., if they don't want to go to the trouble of reselling the entire thing in parts. By going to the trouble of selling the parts to multiple buyers, a seller can make more than the cost of purchasing the laptop in the first place. Similarly in animation art, if someone buys a series of drawings, they may very well be able to sell drawings 1-4 and 6-8 cumalatively for much more than they paid and still have the nicest drawing from the lot, because while people were willing to spend more than the cost per drawing for one drawing, they were not willing to buy the lot and go to the trouble of reselling the other drawings.


You can combine these concepts; parting out is definitely relevant to the situation under discussion. Either or both a rising market (true for Sesshomaru and Inuyasha stuff in general) or purchase in one market and sale in another market (often true for anime art, I don't know if it applies here) may also apply here. It is not unreasonable for a seller in certain circumstances to expect to recoup their outlay for a whole on a portion of that whole.

(while this message appears properly in the editing preview, it is not displaying properly on the boards; length issue?)
Edited Sep 09 at 10:22 PM
Ted
Ted's Animation Gallery
Sep 09 at 9:59 PM
[quote]I admit that I am young and I wanted to learn each and every facet of this hobby. -sophcollegegirl-[/quote]

Thanks for the apology!

Just remember... don't write Guides on Cel Scamming when you're just learning the hobby... The guide was just a bunch of misinformation... It's ok to make mistakes... but learn from them.

And we can be really really good friends ok! No hard feelings!


And Congratulations on a Lovely new Sesshy!!! Pudge is awesome... Just remember if you want to say someone isn't as awesome as pudge... Instead don't say it.
Edited Sep 09 at 10:17 PM
roboflonne
Sep 09 at 10:01 PM
No, you are a total liar, Yes, I am the seller that refuses to sell to you. You can call me mean or whatever you wish. you existed in this gallery before and back then you tried to get my sesshoumaru cels, I have the emails. You said a family member was injured and and asked if I could tke payment plans, now it is your roommate?, you play games with people all the time. I do NOT include many sketches becasue they were DAMAGED or DESTROYED in a flood when I had to pay $10,000 for a new roof. THAT is the reason why they are not included, because most of them do not exist. So to assume that you 'know for a fact' what is going on makes you even more of a liar, I never said that I kept the sketches, I just did not include them, YOU made the assumption. My sketches were kept in different binders, then my cels and were damaged. I have sold and purchased dozens of cels to expert collectors and have not YET had their authenticity questioned. No one owes you these items, they are a LUXURY, that YOU cannot afford and feel you need to complain about them.
If anyone wants the other emails that this person had sent me BEFORE she vanished, send me feedback via rubberslug -_-
she is looking for simpathy and looking to be the victim and I am tired of her. I was nice to her to try and work something out. I will show everyone how young you really are....when you told me your son was sick, then you were flamed before and you and your gallery vanished.
Edited Sep 09 at 10:08 PM
angeldeath
angel of Death
Sep 09 at 10:02 PM
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