WARNING: Counterfeit Cels

I also have two more comparisons to show as well. One is the "Duke" cel and the other is the "Dusty" cel. As I previously stated, I believe these cels are also fake but they seem to have been more professionally done than the Snake Eyes cel. So you have to look closer for some of the differences on these.

Here's the Dusty Comparison. The dvd screencap is on the left and the cel that GoG had is on the right.

http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m554/maceanimation/Dusty-Comparison.jpg

The most notable difference on this one is the mouth. Next is the coloring.The colors are pretty darn close but the shade on everything is still off somewhat. Then compare the camo on his face and clothes. The designs/shapes are very similiar but they don't match exactly. For examples of this look at the camo under his left eye,chin, above and below the goggles and etc.,.Compare the chin strap hanging down on the right side under his neck. One is curved and one is not. Look at the shadows on the right side of the backpack above his right shoulder,on the left side of the nose,on the neck. It also looks to me like the camo under the right,black,backpack belt is supposed to be green in the screencap but they have it painted brown in the cel.

Here's the Duke comparison. The cel that GoG had is on the left and the matching screencap is on the right.

http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m554/maceanimation/Duke-Comparisons.jpg

The first thing to note is that the colors are off. As I already mentioned with the Dusty cel, the colors are very close but the shades are off. Look at the hair, the orange on the shoulders,etc.,. If you look closely you can see that the mouth/bottom lip is different. The triangle shaped shadowing on both shoulders have more rounded edges in the screencap but are more square in the cel. The shadow on the right arm is more smooth in the screencap and more lumpy in the cel. Compare the right wing of the emblem he has on his chest. There is an extra line on the cel by his right nostril thats not in the screencap.

All of these differences I listed above for both cels are the most noticeable. There are still many others.

All of the Gijoe cels and some Transformers cels that GoG had posted in his gallery that I questioned the authenticity of have problems like this and that shouldn't be. The Gijoe and Transformers cels that I myself own and others that even GoG has owned before this have never had these problems. They match exactly what is on the screen. But none of these more recent ones that GoG had posted to his gallery do. GoG claims to have purchased these cels from a dealer in japan. I honestly believe that someone over there is making counterfeit cels. As Mackettric stated in a earlier post, considering the prices that these type of cels go for it's a wonder this type of thing doesn't happen more often. And as i've already stated,GoG doesn't seem to think that there is a problem with these cels and plans on selling or trading them as originals. With all of the obvious differences I think that is the wrong thing to do.
So just be aware of this if you buy any Gijoe or Transformers cels from GoG. Or for that matter the (drbarker) or (productioncels) Id's on ebay.

If anyone has any questions please ask.
Edited Mar 26 at 3:33 PM
Mace
Animation X
Mar 20 at 10:43 PM
Just thought I should let everyone know that (drbarker) has listed three more ebay auctions for Gijoe cels. All are believed to be "fake". Two can be seen as previously being in Guardians of Good's gallery. Here is the ebay link.

http://shop.ebay.com/drbarker/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Please take everything that has been posted here into consideration if you plan on bidding on these cels.

The one cel is of Duke of which there is a comparison already posted between the cel and screenshot. Here is the link if you missed it the first time.

http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m554/maceanimation/Duke-Comparisons.jpg
Edited Mar 26 at 3:36 PM
Mace
Animation X
Mar 25 at 1:35 AM
I have been out of the game for a while.
I remember a time when one might have to look out for counterfeit Evangelion or Princess Mononoke cels - now it's Sunbow G.I. Joe and Transformer cels? Wow...just wow.
huckapucka
Homage
Mar 27 at 3:16 PM
Hey all,

I am new to the collector scene and watched this show when I was a kid. I loved it. This thread has me asking myself a lot of questions and realized that I might as well ask you all because you have more knowledge in this department than me.

So supposedly this ebay person made these cels? They took the time to paint the cels themselves?
I hear a lot of opinions but don't see any concrete proof. Is someone here an authenticator of this art or work for a gallery?
Mace, you sound like you have a past or something with this GoG person, who I didn't see any replies on this thread, although I could have missed it. How do you know that the seller on ebay is GoG? Maybe they bought them from GoG and you are attacking someone completely innocent. I personally would be a little careful when throwing around such facts, but that's just me.
Don't get me wrong, I don't know one from the other, but it all just sounded weird.

So you are sure that these cels are fakes. What about all the others that are on eBay? Do they come with a certificate of authenticity? None of the auctions have stated that, hence why I ask. I just got my tax return of about $8k and wanted to start collecting some cels. If someone can point me to a reliable source, please do.

Again, I am just trying to ask some information before I get taken from a ride. If it were me, and I couldn't prove it without a shadow of a doubt, I would be afraid someone hit me with a lawsuit.

Just my 2 cents. Hopefully someone can point me to some good deals or a reliable place to find some.
Thanks all for reading.
newbiecollector
Mar 28 at 7:10 AM
Wow, an 8K tax return huh?I'm really impressed.Thanks for sharing that.
How is it your able to ignore any information thats been posted in this forum that backs up the claim that these cels are quite possibly fakes but ask all of these questions that seems like your defending GOG without really doing so?Plus making subtle threats about lawsuits.Why is that I wonder?
Atashi
Mar 28 at 12:38 PM
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