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Hey, I tried the whole 'humid nights' trick and got one cel unstuck over the last two nights!
WOOT!!!! Roy, you're awesome!!!
I'm going to be slowly doing this for all of my stuck cels! *does the happy dance*
Hello,Leah
I'm glad it worked for you but it does not always work so take your time and don't force it.
it only works for lightly stuck cels.
JUST so every one knows what she is talking about.
I told her to lay the cels next to a cracked open window at Night ONLY so the moist air gets to the cels and helps release the stuck drawing from the cel don't leave the cel in the window in the day time as it is to hot for your cels and can damage them,the next morning try to pull the drawing off the cel a little at a time and rotate the cel around as you pull, Place a pen or a few coins between the paper and cel as you remove the drawing over a few days so the moist air gets to the dry part of the drawing and take your time as this can take a few days to work, Don't force it.
Hello AL,
The above may work on some of your lightly stuck cels, give it a try.
As for your post before.
When you try to remove the paper lay the cel face down on a dry soft cloth on your table something like a big T-shirt or cloth like it, Try to keep the cel as flat you can while you do this to keep from bending the cel and flaking the paint off don't hold the cel in your hand as this bends the cel as you pull and may flake the paint off.
When you do try to remove the paper move the cel around like a lazy susan in a circle and pull up and over the other paper like folding it over itself not straight up, This rolls the paper off the cel this helps sometimes,
But only pull a little at a time and turn it and do it some more and turn ect until it comes off.
If it does not come off easy let the rag with water soak a little bit longer to soften the paper more, The more time you take the better this will work so take your time and don't hurry I've taken Five days to remove drawings before.
"MAKE SURE" you let the cel dry before you put it away so no water remains on the paint or cel when you put it in storage as this can cause mold or foxing on your drawings and cels.
If you have small amount of paper still on the cel let it dry over night and try the wet rag the next day it will come off easyer because the paper shrinks a little after it drys and helps to pull it out of the paint and makes it come off easyer the next day with the water and rag thing.
As far as your expensive ones if you don't feel comfortable with the water and rag way, Cut as much paper away from the cel as you can and leave whats left in place this way it will not touch the clear part of the cel and yellow it, The paint will act like a barrier for the clear part of the cel under the cel paint the most it will do is yellow the back of the cel paint were you can not see it as it is on the back side of the cel.
Get yourself a set of x-acto or a hobby knife set with the very small blades to cut the paper away from the cel but remember to keep the edge of the blade pointed way from the cel and toward the paper always so you don't nick the cel don't force the blade in but cut small parts out one at a time and remove them with a wet tooth pick as the paper will stick to the wet tooth Pick and make it easyer to remove them after you cut them.
If you fold a towel in half and drape the cel over the edge it sometimes opens a small gap in the edge of the paper that you can get the blade under the paper to cut it away from the cel, Don't bend the cel just lay it across the towel and let the edge you are working on hang off the towel and let it lay on the table you are working on so you don't pull the paint off the cel you are working on as bending the cel can flake paint off keep the bend very small just enough to open the gap and take your time don't work on it more that half an hour at a time as you will get the shakes in your hands and can nick your cels.
I've tryed to give you the hints I've learned but as with everything it's always better to show someone than to tell them how to do it if you know what I mean.
Please if you run into something that I have not covered or you have problems please stop and email me as soon as I read your email I'll try to help if I can if I can't I'll be the first one to tell you so and I'll check with the folks I know in the biz for some help.
This type of work takes a steady hand and the patience of a saint thats why it cost so much to have it done and sometimes its worth the cost to have someone do it for you so you don't pull your own hair out trying.
But the fact you are trying shows me you are willing learn and with practice you will get it right in the end but as with everything practice makes perfect, Keep it up and you will train yourself in time.
I hope this helps you out some!
Roy
Edited May 27 at 5:27 PM
Ok! I'm new, so I have a few questions about this.
What about cels with unstuck sketches? Do you still need to sperate them?
If so, what's the best thing to put in the cel bag with the cel? If it's just in there by itself it's kinda flimsy..>_<
I just started collecting cels and was wondering what's better to put them and sketches in, cel bags or cel books.
Oh and I just got a cel that has a very very small piece of paper stuck to it. It's like the size of the point of a pen. Should I try to take it out or leave it alone? If I leave it alone will it cause any damage to the cel in the long run?
Thank you
Put them in both. First in a bag, then put the bagged cel in the book for storage/support purposes. Some people use celboxes rather than books, but either one will work.
The thing is, you need to have the cels in bags to protect them from dirt. You shouldn't reuse celbags because no matter how hard you try, you will get dirt/dust in them.
As far as the paper being stuck, I'm not an expert . . . but I think you might be safe. Anyone want to help out this one?
[quote]What about cels with unstuck sketches? Do you still need to sperate them?
If so, what's the best thing to put in the cel bag with the cel? If it's just in there by itself it's kinda flimsy..>_< [/quote]
You need to keep your sketches and cels separate, or else they WILL get stuck. I don't think you need to keep sketches in celbags, but some people do. From what I hear, mylar bags are the best for preserving paper.
I find that the best way to support cels is to stick them in a cel book. It's best, however, not to stick [b]anything[/b] else in the celbag. Cels very rarely stick to bags, but will almost always stick to other layers, paper, and sometimes cardboard. But from what I understand, it's best to keep them away from paper/cardboard anyway, because paper and cardboard give off acids that can ruin cels.
You might get a faster answer if you go in the chat room. Good luck!
Edited Jul 02 at 7:38 PM