Makoto Shinsengumi

Hand Me Downs
last modified: Friday, February 01, 2008 (3:31:32 PM)
I was browsing through some musings in one of the forums, twice now I've seen people mention about how nowadays collectors seems to be more excited when there's newer artwork to be had. You know what? I think that's really natural... I get excited too. However usually this is followed by a mention of how others tend to not get excited over artwork that is already in someone's gallery for everyone to see. Now that one I completely don't get. Why would artwork not be valued the same or at least elicit the same appreciation just because it's in public? I was discussing this with a friend because I totally do not get this... Why? Because almost all my most treasured cels I got from collectors who showed it in their gallery and I think most of the time I offered decently to get them, otherwise I wouldn't have them right? I really think it depends on the cel... I'm sure I'm not the only one who's gone to a gallery and admired a piece for years wishing it was mine. Telling myself, if she/he ever sells I'll be throwing a bid in... Either that or I just jump the gun and make the best offer I can at that moment.

The reason for this post is, soon I will be posting a cel that has haunted me early on when I started cel collecting. It's not new, everyone who has bothered to look would've seen it already but it is very special to me. The amount of effort and persistence and money I put into acquiring that cel, modesty aside, is nothing short of astounding that I surprise even myself. Not to lift my own bench, but I think it's a great cel with great lines (not cel lines, dialogue), of course if I follow the "hand me down" theory then I guess it's not a great cel after all. Oh and I don't mean to criticize the one who pointed this out, it is after all just an observation of theirs of the community. Although if it's true then I guess I have to ask myself, is it worth it to show something people's seen before? :( Oh well, I know what's important is that -I- love it.
re: Hand Me DownsFriday, February 01, 2008 - 1:54:17 PM

I think you said it best at the end. YOU love it. That''s what really counts, isn''t it? I know what you mean by not really understanding why though. I don''t exactly get that either. I nabbed a cel I''ve been chasing around since the dawn of forever recently from ebay and I KNOW it''s been seen before but I really don''t care. I love it, it''s wonderful to me and that''s really what matters. If you think it''s a great cel, it is.

hmmmFriday, February 01, 2008 - 2:22:39 PM

I think it has to do with availability. If everyone had their collections hidden, you would have no idea what cels existed and which had been lost/destroyed. So if a seemingly rare piece appeared on eBay, there would be a huge scramble to obtain it, for fear of never seeing it again. It would disappear into a collection. This is what makes people seem more interested in the "newer"/never-seen-before artwork, rather than in established pieces that can be viewed on a daily basis in some online gallery.

re: Hand Me DownsFriday, February 01, 2008 - 2:39:45 PM

Whether one wants to admit it or not, unless the piece is straight off the presses, every piece of artwork out there is a "hand-me-down". Just because it appeared on YJ/E-bay does not mean that it was not previously owned by a collector. This is especially true of certain YJ sellers who act as a middle man and sell whatever item a collector wants to be rid of.

The point of collecting anything is to enjoy it. Ignore the insults and remember the compliments. That''s the best way to go.

re: Hand Me DownsFriday, February 01, 2008 - 2:57:25 PM

Everything in my gallery is a hand me down ^_^ Some from e-bay, some I bought from people here; but I have all of those piece''s of art work displayed in my gallery. If you are the proud owner of a cel - show it off! That''s what makes this site so great - the amazing artwork! ^_^

re: Hand Me DownsFriday, February 01, 2008 - 7:31:29 PM

As long as you''re happy with it, that''s all that matters! And you have every right to be excited about acquiring and showing it off as any other cel! This hobby is not a competition about who owns the biggest collection or who can get hold of artwork which no-one else has seen, its all about collecting to your hearts desire…remember showing it off in your gallery is only about being part of the community and sharing it with others…but ultimately you collect for yourself!

Oh...and I can''t wait to see it! ^_^ What is it, what is it!?

re: Hand Me DownsSaturday, February 02, 2008 - 10:04:16 AM

I know what you mean ^_^ I have been thinking about it for a while as well.... At the end I also think what you really love is the most important and if you love them I think it only matters ^_^

re: Hand Me DownsSaturday, February 02, 2008 - 8:18:33 PM

Thanks for your replies. I''m glad to hear them! I haven''t spoken to some of you in a while! I apologize for that. :) I''ll be updating soon, I''m hoping this coming week. Till then, take care all!

re: Hand Me DownsSaturday, February 02, 2008 - 9:12:07 PM

I''m with Cutiebunny . . . only I''ll take it a step further and say that any art (unless its a relizu purchased directly from the studio) is a hand me down. They used it to make the anime right? It always amuses me when I get a package from Japan that had "Used animation cel" written on the customs forms, but its true! ^_^

On the other hand, I also agree with Rei. If I kept my artwork hidden, I''m sure that more people would bid on my auctions and buy stuff from me. People would not know that the artwork exists, or where it is, and so would feel a rush of excitement when it goes up for sale or auction.

But I collect what I like, and very few others seem to like it. :P

re: Hand Me DownsSaturday, February 02, 2008 - 9:13:01 PM

Oh, and by Rei, I mean Miss Z. Tricksy girl has a different RS name than the one she uses on the forums.

re: Hand Me DownsSaturday, February 02, 2008 - 9:55:15 PM

Hmmm I guess then, this might be a reason why others hide their collection (aside from the many others). :) Ah well... It''s a tad sad but I guess such is the reality for now.

re: Hand Me DownsSaturday, February 02, 2008 - 10:46:00 PM

I recently purchased a "hand me down" cel which I have been drooling over for more than 4 years. It was sitting in a fellow RS gallery. My situation is similar to yours in that it is a very special cel to me. I''m not too concerned about what others think about it. If I had bought the cel to resell at some point, then maybe I would care, but I really doubt it will ever leave my possession was to hard to get to let it go. I plan on showing it in my gallery b/c that''s how I look at what I have. I don''t look through my cel books very often, instead I view my gallery. So my gallery is as much for myself as it is to show others what I have.

re: Hand Me DownsSaturday, February 02, 2008 - 11:30:05 PM

I usually look at my cels in the books and on the wall. Right now I keep an online gallery only for when I''m not at home. Hehe! But anyway, congrats on getting your cel! :)